OTHERS WEIGH IN ON THE PROBLEM OF
JOE JARED, AKA Stephen Joseph Jared
of Orange, CA and of oretek.com & osirusoft.com
Joe, Internet Harasser
Path:
archiver1.google.com!news1.google.com!newsfeed.stanford.edu!newsfeed.gamma.ru!
Gamma.RU!carrier.kiev.ua!news.ukr.net!nototalitarism
From: librar...@global.lib.reinforcement.authority (librarian)
Newsgroups: news.groups,news.admin.net-abuse.usenet,news.admin.censorship
Subject: Re: Usenet mafia, information terrorism and totalitarian dicatorship
Date: 10 Oct 2001 19:21:03 GMT
Organization: UkrNet
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NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2001 02:21:29 +0000 (UTC)
In article <3B55D655.263CB...@relays.osirusoft.com>, Joe Jared
<joeja...@relays.osirusoft.com> wrote:
>Original to: a...@netscape.com
>
>In terms of the insecurity of your site's news server, Netscape's news
>server being insecure qualifies it for UDP.
Wow!
Isn't that one a lil too big for your mouth?
You wish to UDP AOL?
Hahahahahahahaha.
Ever heard of Freemasons?
Good luck, or rather good lick,
virtual terrorists.
> Please secure your news server.
What kind of delusion is this?
How do you SECURE a news server?
Where did you get this idea of the grade of delusion?
> Its security issues along with others
Are the matter of AOL and not virtual terrorists
of your kind.
> allowed Hipcrime to flood
>news.admin.net-abuse.*,
And what is news.admin.net-abuse.* on the scale of things?
A place where usenet mafia hangs out
collaborating with all sorts of virtual terrorists
of your grade?
Impressive indeed.
> to "joe job" others in other groups (alt.icq is
>one) , and rogue cancels. Although the abuser
It is a valid speech.
Even more valid than your virtual terrorism fabrications.
You, pathological liars and manipulators
are engaging in campaigns of deceit,
fabricating delusions.
You are so perverted
that you even conceive of an idea
of denying access to usenet to millions of people
just because of one individual,
playing games with you,
and justifiably so.
What CAN he do?
You, criminal perverts, have done so much
to abuse not only him, but literally anyone,
who does not submit to your corrupt totalitarian
rule, and totally without any punishment of any kind,
that there is LITERALLY nothing anyone can do
to stop you.
You unite in conspiracies,
aggregating power of anihilation.
You create the "manifestos" of electronic warfare.
You terrorise the whole world.
You impose your dictates upon all,
having not authority of ANY kind,
and, being the most arrogant perverts you are,
you think no one under the sun
can do ANYTHING about it.
You are weaseling your ways around the fringes
of the law, knowing full well that it is very
unlikely any individual, or even organization
can bring you to justice
just because of the tremendous expenses involved
and the fact that you will fabricate "agreements"
between one another, making it look like your
virtual terrorism is somehow is done with
consensus or agreement.
Even the biggest commercial entities,
having tremendous resources,
back away from bringing you, terrorists,
to court because of high sensitivity of
the "spam" issue.
They probably simply do not wish to look like
they are supporting the spam as such,
at least until now.
But, with the TREMENDOUS amount of information
on record, I would not be surprised
your days are numbered.
You NEVER attempted to create an organization
to address the issue of spam in LEGAL ways,
appealing to your legislators and government.
Nope, you are not interested in legal resolution
because it will put you out of business.
You are here to create self-significance
and capitalize on the issue of spam.
The LEGAL resolution is the LAST thing in your mind.
Thus, you are operating in EXTRA-legal context.
Basically, you are qualifiable as
corrupt racketeering organizations
and subject to RICO act.
Because:
1. You terrorise legal commercial entities,
FORCING them to submit to your will.
2. You THREATEN them with terrorist attacks
and CONDUCT those attacks.
3. You do it all to advance your own
and CORRUPT agenda.
Plus, you are MOST arrogant and self-admitted
virtual terrorists, conducting your clandestine
campaigns with the principles and ideology,
strategy and tactics of a military warfare,
as outlined in:
Message-ID: <9j2qar$g4...@news.ukr.net>
From: nucl...@invalid.you.are (nucleus)
Newsgroups: news.groups,news.admin.net-abuse.usenet,news.admin.censorship
Subject: FAQ: Usenet mafia, Electronic Warfare and Information Terrorism
Date: Wed, 18 Jul 2001 01:55:39 GMT
> was not within your own
>network, you can not legitimately ignore it, and at least one cancelbot
>is now canceling your mail in various newsgroups,
Mail in newsgroups?
Impressive.
> effectively cleaning
>up after your mess. Please assume responsibility for your side of the
>problem and fix it.
Nope. Those are not just some people,
"fixing" some "problem".
They are self-promoting virtual terrorists,
terrorising the whole world
and redefining the very notions of democracy,
free speech and BASIC, mind you, BASIC Human Rights
and principles, conducting TOTALLY unauthorized
censorship of totalitarian grade,
PRETENDING to be doing it as a public service,
while they are NOT authorized or elected by
usenet at large to conduct their virtual terrorism
attacks on a GLOBAL scale, just as evidenced on
control.cancel group.
Some of the most outrageous virtual criminals
and terrorists are:
Andrew Gierth,
Chris Lewis,
David Ritz,
Howard Knight,
Mark Burkley,
Runners of Cosmo Roadkill bot,
Sol networks,
LART.com
and few others.
The statement on http://www.lart.com
is quite revealing and quite representative
of their unbound and outrageous arrogance:
Quote:
"To Serve And Reject"
EQUALIZER TO THE MASSES
Yes, now too with YOUR WILL user unfriendliness shall cease to exist!!!
DON'T TREAD ON THEE
"...it is the responsibility of anyone with a modem and a dialup
account...promptly to SPANK,
manhandle and humiliate they who do, write, drool and encourage things
ill on the Internet."
..if you can't take a joke, we'll make your butt smoke!
End of quote.
JOKE?
Nope, they are OBSCESSED anihilators and sadists,
who do not believe in law and public service,
no matter what kind of perversion they fabricate.
---------------------------- quote begin -------------------------
The S.P.U.T.U.M. Net.War Operational Taskforce Working
Advisory Document.
http://www.radix.net/~revjack/snotwad/snotwad0.htm
http://www.radix.net/~revjack/snotwad/snotwad2.htm
Net.War Planning: The End is the Beginning
In order to assess how to conduct war against an opponent, one must
first firmly visualize the peace you want after the din of fighting
has ceased. Our goal in all conflicts is always to win, and win BIG.
---------------------------- end of quote -------------------------
It is Electronic Warfare and virtual terrorism.
In PURE sense of the word.
Just look at your own headers:
Organization: OsiruSoft Research & Engineering
Message-ID: <3B55D655.263CB...@relays.osirusoft.com>
NNTP-Posting-Host: node10.localnet
X-Trace: ns.osirusoft.com 995481159 14216 192.168.0.10 (18 Jul 2001 18:32:39
GMT)
X-Complaints-To: n...@news.osirusoft.com
NNTP-Posting-Date: 18 Jul 2001 18:32:39 GMT
To: Abuse Terms of Service <a...@netscape.com>
Now, your NNTP-Posting-Host is what?
Well, the node10.localnet.
What does it mean?
Well, it means that you can not be identified
on Internet.
You are covering up your tracks.
But what do you DEMAND from others?
Well, you demand their privacy is exposed
and their TRUE NNTP posting host is identified,
just as implemented in the INN server,
custom made to identify any user on the internet,
by ISC, Internet Software Consortium,
sponsored in part by DISA, Defense Information Systems Agency.
Interestingly enough, that server is one of the most
popular servers in the world, and those "features"
are likely have been wired into it as a result of
request from military and intelligence organizations
of the United States of America, USA.
THAT puts quite a twist on this whole thing,
ain't it?
>..
>Abuse Terms of Service wrote:
>> Thank you for contacting the Netscape Abuse Department
>> regarding this issue.
>> The spam you received did not originate from a Netscape.com or
>> Netscape.net account. Please contact the senders ISP to resolve
>> this issue.
>> For more information on how to combat Spam, please visit
>> the FIGHT SPAM ON THE INTERNET web site at:
>> http://spam.abuse.net/ or the JULIAN HAIGHT web site at:
>> (http://www.julianhaight.com/spamcop/).
>> Please let us know if we can provide any additional
>> information or assistance.
>> Thank you,
>> JR
>> Netscape Abuse Department
>> Joe Jared wrote:
>> > cc's to a...@netscape.com
>> > Felix Tilley wrote:
>> > >
>> > > Are they filtering this stuff out, or are they getting hit too.
>> > > I know a lot of the regulars in this newsgroup have AOL accounts.
>> > > I used to have
>> > > an AOL account. So what has happened at AOL?
>> > > Felix Tilley
>> > Do a dns lookup on netscape.com, dial the associated number, and then
>> > press 9 when prompted to do so. Any questions?
>> > I'm extremely concerned about the apparant apathy of netscape
>> > communications. It's almost like they've chose the AOL way, and become
>> > idiots. Their server is allowing hipcrime to vomit, rape, and pillage
>> > this newsgroup and others, yet there is no visible response to the
>> > problem. (sorry about that r word... It fits). LART'ing them might
>> > acheive something, but since they're now affiliated with the AOL
>> > monster, who knows. From my perspective, when a problem of this nature
>> > occurs, one would assume that a responsible administrator would at
>> > minimum, pull the plug on the offending system and solve the problem.
>> > What they chose to do however is their choice.
>> > Wait... Was I audible just now?
>> > --
>> > http://relays.osirusoft.com
>> > http://www.osirusoft.com
(end quote)
Some things I ALSO
find exceptionally interesting in this post are: (1) the connection of
Joe Jared to lart.com, a domain owned by "Taylor Jimenez" -- thought
to be just
an alias for Joe Jared. And, (2) the fact that Howard Knight is pointed
out as one of
the best pals of Joe Jared BECAUSE Knight is also a best pal of "Taylor
Jimenez",
being on of only 20 or so people to attend a "Virtual Wake", along
with "Taylor".
This is one of several close friends shared by Joe Jared AND "mystery
man",
"Taylor Jimenez".
It is also more than a little bit interesting that although Jared and
"Jimenez" are both
BIG anti-spammers (supposedly and ironically, since they are supreme
hypocrites),
Jared and "Jimenez" are never found together in any forum.
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Joe, Newsgroup Forger/Harasser
It looks like Jared has participated in
newsgroup harassment, with other CABAL
members:
Wollmann is apparently complaining about a forgery of him:
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X-Admin: n...@aol.com
From: ehwollm...@aol.com (EHWollmann)
Newsgroups: news.admin.net-abuse.usenet
Date: 10 Aug 2004 02:17:56 GMT
Organization: AOL http://www.aol.com
Subject: Harasser
Message-ID: <20040809221756.26080.00001602@mb-m28.aol.com>
[snip]
Subject: Re: Chart Delineation Sequences
Path: lobby!ngtf-m01.news.aol.com!ngpeer.news.aol.com!feed2.newsreader.com!newsr
eader.com!newshosting.com!nx02.iad01.newshosting.com!news.glorb.com!feeder
2.on.meganewsservers.com!meganewsservers.com!reader1.on.meganewsservers.co
m!reader1.on.meganewsservers.com!not-for-mail
ath: nntpswitch.com <---------------------NOTE
From: It's me! m...@privacy.n3t
Newsgroups: alt.astrology
Date: Mon, 09 Aug 2004 22:12:03 -0400
Organization: Covad
Reply-To: m...@privacy.n3t
Message-ID: <3kbgh0phjhrhajoukc6md6ofmk4corj9al@4ax.com>
References: <20040809220522.14599.00001401@mb-m29.aol.com>
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On 10 Aug 2004 02:05:22 GMT, ehwollm...@aol.com (EHWollmann) wrote:
>Here is the logical sequence of basic chart analysis I suggest and use;
>
>1)Lie
>2>Cheat
>3>Steal
>4>Kill your best friend.
>5>Get arrested for criminal tresspass.
>6>Get kicked out of SDSU
>7>Threaten lawsuits
>8>Plagerize a book.
>9>Repeat
--
It's me.
Edmond H. Wollmann P.M.A.F.A.
(C) 2004 Altair Publications, SAN 299-5603
Astrological Consulting http://www.astroconsulting.com/
Articles http://www.astroconsulting.com/FAQs/info.htm
Artworks http://www.e-wollmann.com/TOC.htm
(end quote, by Wollmann, of the forgery AND end quote)
What do you know, Joe Jared has just been shown to be a forger,
just like "Taylor Jimenez" has been shown to be a forger. Forgery is a
frequent tactic of the CABAL punks.
Here is the headers of a Joe Jared post, same month and year:
ath: nntpswitch.com <---------------------NOTE
Message-ID: <41325AE6.E8C44EB8@oretek.com>
Date: Sun, 29 Aug 2004 15:38:30 -0700
From: Joe Jared <joeja...@oretek.com>
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.8 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.4.20-20.7 i686)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
Newsgroups: alt.recovery.aa
Subject: Re: Celebrity alcoholics
References: <b73c66b.0408291355.1187fb3c@posting.google.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Organization: We
Lines: 9
NNTP-Posting-Host: 216.251.47.166 <---------------------NOTE
(end quote)
"Taylor" (going by that name) has also been a frequent harasser of Wollmann AND
SEVERAL OTHERS. "Taylor" (like Jared) seeks power by stalking, harassing, lying about,
and belittling others.
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Joe, SPAMMER
Now, we have another person citing Jared as a likely
SOURCE of email spam.
The spam email described is similar to that which others have
experienced (and this is not the only person
who has accused Jared of such spam).:
From: Warwick <use...@affordable-afpers.co.uk>
Newsgroups: uk.people.parents
Subject: Re: ****** Forgery**************The hollow barber rarely burns James, it improves Ayman instead.
Date: Tue, 1 Apr 2003 22:12:24 +0100
Organization: dis
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Message-ID: <MPG.18f411163da5209c989733@lateinos>
References: <Fg9whcDgpTdCgLknyGfFdkqSmcwC@swva.net>
NNTP-Posting-Host: pc3-leic1-5-cust95.nott.cable.ntl.com (80.5.193.95)
X-Trace: fu-berlin.de 1049231790 4132665 80.5.193.95 (16 [109390])
X-Orig-Path: warwick.dnsalias.com
X-Newsreader: MicroPlanet Gravity v2.50
X-Original-NNTP-Posting-Host: 192.168.63.13
X-Original-Trace: 1 Apr 2003 22:12:24 GMT, 192.168.63.13
X-Authenticated-User: warwick
In article <Fg9whcDgpTdCgLknyGfFdkqSm...@swva.net>, r...@swva.net
says...
> How to Boycott a Global Bully
> http://adbusters.org/
Please don't send email flames or anything else to the purported sender
of this post.
It is an attack on one of those fighting hard to reduce spam and on the
adbusters website.
Patricia is a very hard working member of the anti-spam community and
this post sent in her name is designed to attrack as much flammage and
abuse to her inbox as possible.
She is currently dealing with around 12,000 messages a day courtesy of
this being spammed via email and newsgroups for the last couple of
weeks. You will also likely see stuff coming from Steve Lindford, Joe
Jared and Steve Sobol. These are all forged senders and designed to
cause the real person grief.
(end quote)
The personality of Joe Jared is identical to that of "Taylor Jimenez" -- in
addition to the many noted material similarities.
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Joe, Abusive Businessman
Unlike, probably 99.9% of the civilized world, Joe
Jared will NOT respect person-to-person email, even
from people who have appropriate business with him
He will publish email from people who write to him about his
business on newsgroups
and/or on web pages.
Those who have dealt with him have found him "VERY
unprofessional" because of this.
One who said this had to sue him for unreasonable and abusive behavior.
Here is a report from a respectable person whose email Jared
ABUSED:
SEE: http://www.ehto.org/legal/spamcoulddestroyinternet.htm QUOTING :
[snip]
In response to last week's column, I've received numerous complaints from ZDNet readers
that, in their experience, taking any sort of threatening posture against the blacklisters
often results in a deaf ear, permanent blacklisting (regardless of innocence or guilt)
with no chance of delisting, and public ridicule. Indicative of this attitude is a message
posted by Osirusoft's Joe Jared on his blacklisting site that says "No e-mail received
here shall be considered confidential, and may actually be publicly disclosed [on the
NNTP newsgroup news.admin.net-abuse.e-mail]. If you wish to e-mail me about spamsites.org,
spamhaus.org, or spews.org listings, they will surely be publicly available [in that
newsgroup]. The same goes for voice-mail, depending on its entertainment value."
[snip]
(end quote)
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Joe Jared's Legal and Bill Problems
Quoting a Washington Post web site:
... This appears to be why Joe Jared was hit with a CA State Income Tax Lien
JOE JARED OPERATING OSIRUSOFT RESEARCH & ENGINEERING WITHOUT
A BUSINESS LICENSE IN CA, as evidenced by this Public Record On-Line at:
OCGOV.COM Clerk-Recorders Office
OSIRUSOFT RESEARCH & ENGINEERING
1 20006825551
03/10/2000 [Started] - 03/10/2005 [Expired]
JARED STEPHEN FBN YES
The SAME website reflects a CA Tax Lien for Stephen J. Jared 10-20-06 AND no other
business licenses registered under his name.
Joe Jared fled to Columbus,Ohio in late June 2006 ... [snip]
(end quote)
Other information about many thousands of dollars in debt to lawyers, that
Joe Jared has difficulty paying, is cited. Looks like tax evasion, operating
a business without a license, and having debts he can not pay are all
problems Joe Jared has.
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"Taylor" (aka Joe Jared?), on Lawsuits
AND: "Just Taylor's" opinion of lawsuits (and
apparently he has one) TOTALLY MATCHES that
of Joe Jared (Jared is sued for being an abusive ass).
See the newsgroup post quoted:
Path: g2news1.google.com!news4.google.com!news.glorb.com!news.alt.net!usenet
From: Just Taylor <tay...@wilhelp.com>
Newsgroups: rec.autos.makers.jeep+willys
Subject: Re: Stalking Asshole "Taylor Jimenez" NAILED as Joe Jared!!
Date: Tue, 11 Oct 2005 12:23:17 -0700
Organization: Save the World. Don't buy a new Jeep. Buy a old one!
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Message-ID: <435d1099.364523250@wilhelp.com>
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On Tue, 11 Oct 2005 20:04:45 +0200, "Earle Horton"
<nurse-nospam-bust...@msn.com> wrote:
>The fact that there are so many lawsuits, is more evidence that people
just
>don't get along, than anything else.
Thought I agree with what you have to say for the most part, I have to
disagree with what you said above. The fact that there are so many
lawsuits are not because people don't get along but because it is very
cheap to take someone to court yet can cost the defendant a lot of money
even if he wins.
If the loser had to pay the court costs, Mr. Smith wouldn't be wasting
our court time with Mr. Rogers over the sound of his lawn mower or
whatever other frivolous lawsuit he files against another.
--
Taylor
(end quote)
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"Taylor's" joejared Domains
At about 3:30 p.m. on Sept. 27, 2005 a post was made to
news.admin.net-abuse.email suggesting that
joejared.info could be purchased & within an hour
"Taylor" buys it!!
This is most astonishing especially because the availability
of www.joejared.info was checked and it was available at around
3:30 p.m. Sept. 27
BUT, BY LESS THAN AN HOUR
LATER, "Taylor" has purchased it and announces (posting as "Just
Taylor") that it "is taken". ONLY Joe Jared would spend $ this way.
There was little opportunity for anyone other than "Just Taylor", who was active at
the time on several newsgroups (doing off-topic harassing stalking and personal
spamming of about 10 other newsgroups at the time), to observe the post mentioning the
idea of buying www.joejared.info . Then that domain is bought using HIS TRUE ALIAS
and listed with HIS completely false and bogus registration information -- BOGUS
INFORMATION EXACTLY LIKE THAT PROVIDED BY "Taylor Netscum" or
"Taylor Jimenez" for lart.com and hell.flame-wars.org and other falsely listed ABUSE
DOMAINS. THEN, this fool, posting as "Just Taylor" announces that
www.joejared.info is "taken" -- ALL WITHIN AN HOUR OF THE IDEA BEING POSTED.
Several other domain names, like joejared.com and joejared.org were
ALSO bought that same hour by "Taylor" & one the next day (one
was bought by 'Kevin Filan', "Taylor's" pal).
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Joe's and "Taylor's" Phone Calls
Both Jared and "Taylor" leave harassing anonymous phone messages:
http://cyberper.cnc.net/Jurisd.gif
(JOE)
http://cyberper.cnc.net/joe.html ("Taylor")
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Joe's Voice & Conclusion
A taped message of a harassing phone
call from "Taylor Jimenez" was played to people
who had sued him and heard his voice and it was
said: "I surely cannot say it is not Joe Jared".
CONCLUSION: Joe Jared is THE infamous 10,000-post spammer
and the x-no-archive stalker and
abuser. So, sorry, Joe Jared,
Stephen Joseph Jared of Orange, Ca. Really now, so sorry. Get some
treatment for you psychopathic behavior.
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